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  • I just noticed this recently, but ever since Origami's inversion, there seems to be a pattern where the spirit in focus during a story arc ends up inverting ot nearly inverting as part of it as we saw from Nia and Mukuro.

    Volume 16 will have Kurumi as the main spirit, so she could be the next to inverse or will she break this possible pattern?

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    • I'm already predicting that she may go Inverse at the end of the Volume itself depending on where Vol. 16 is gonna go with its focus on Kurumi.

      If she does Inverse, I'm hoping it's at the end and we can carry that on to Vol. 17. Although her Inversing somewhere before the end of 16 could also be possible that is IF she does Inverse here. If not, then I'm thinking of a large scale (probably) battle between her and the rest of the Spirits, the one that I'm sure some of us have been at least waiting for.

      That's what I think, however.

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    • I think near or the very end of Volume 16 is more likely too, Kurumi's plans seem to be reaching their ultimatum and the summary mentioning whoever falls in love with the other loses gives the feeling that Kurumi might be getting desperate.

      I'd definitely like to see all of the spirits fighting Inverse Kurumi together, though I think we should add DEM into that fight and make it a three way battle. I'd honestly be surprised if Westcott missed the chance to get Kurumi's inverse powers, being able to manipulate time combined with Beelzebub's powers would make him close to unstoppable.

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    • There seems to be a reoccurring pattern with the volume titles referring to the plot. The literal meaning of refrain means to stop oneself from doing something.

      But in literature it could refer to a stanza in poetry or music that repeats itself...kinda like Kurumi's time powers huh

      Despite Volume 13 giving him a threatening presence, I honestly can't see Westcott being the main threat much longer after his fight with Woodman. As a whole Volume 15 kinda downgraded the DEM threat level that the previous volumes have been building up to. He probably has one more trick up his sleeve, but I think that would probably be it. But honestly that's just me. Who knows what's going to happen.

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    • So it can either mean to stop or to repeat, then maybe the title's using both of those meanings together? Kurumi's return to Shido's school for the sake of her plans representing the stanza that repeats, while Shido wanting to save Kurumi represents him stopping her plans.

      In my honest opinion, the DEM felt kinda overpowered since Volume 7 and it seemed like Westcott always had some kind of advantage regardless of the result. So seeing the entire organization take a big hit during Mukuro's arc was a fresh change, especially since we got to see more of Ratatoskr than just the Fraxinus crew face off against them.

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    • I was taking the Volume's use of the word "Refrain" as in more of Kurumi trying to stop Shido from attempting to seal her, but then again, the way you interpreted is much better.

      As for DEM, I haven't really read Volume 15, but them being overpowered at the start was, in my opinion, a good way to show that they are an organization that Shido and Ratatoskr should ALWAYS take in mind, even when they are off the radar. But, as it seems, them taking a nosedive in Vol. 15 sounds good for the sake of the story, or at least it is for me, since a bit of a short defeat to them could make way for them to rise back up again as the villainous organization that we know them as and far more dangerous than they were before if Westcott were to try to also take Kurumi's Qlipha Crystal IF she goes Inverse or if that's what he'll be trying to do.

      As far as I've read for the time being and from what I've read from the wiki itself, Woodman's stand against Westcott did make him look a literal lesser threat than he has been built up to since Vol. 7. But, I say again, this could may as well serve as a new build up for him to come back at full force, hopefully, at the climax of the series against Shido and Ratatoskr and the Spirits all in all. That's just what I think though.

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    • The last inversion #11 may have already happened.

      In volume 12 Shido went berserk and kept all the spiritual power within himself and used them for himself. This is similar to inverse Da'ath, Choronzon, where the sephirot form is perfect harmony in sharing spiritual power, and the inverse form is holding on everything to himself for the (misguided) selfish purpose of maintaining the ego (the self).

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    • ^ Now that you mention it, Westcott's aim is to extract each of the available Qlipha Crystal from each of the currently known Spirits' Inverse Forms and use all of their Demon Kings for his own egotistical goal.

      So... in retrospect... Shido's berserker stage in Volume 12 could have may as well served as a possible foreshadowing of what Westcott may undergo if he manages to get more of the Qlipha Crystals.

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    • ^ If all that is true, I have a strange feeling a berserker stage for Isaac Westcott will be his undoing.

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    • I hope so.

      That's one of the things I've been speculating for quite some time now for how he gets defeated. Swallowing a pill that was too big for him to even chew.

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    • Talvez ele seja morto pelo próprio cristão q rolou da Nia pq nem é tds os humanos q são compativeis com as sephiras, essa foi uma das razões q e a mio e a kurimi tava matando os espiritos

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    • 179.107.150.49 wrote: Talvez ele seja morto pelo próprio cristal q robou da Nia pq nem é tds os humanos q são compativeis com as sephiras, essa foi uma das razões q e a mio e a kurimi tava matando os espiritos

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    • 179.107.150.49 wrote:

      179.107.150.49 wrote: Talvez ele seja morto pelo próprio cristal q robou da Nia pq nem é tds os humanos q são compativeis com as sephiras, essa foi uma das razões q e a mio e a kurumi tava matando os espiritos

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    • Vincetick wrote:
      I hope so.

      That's one of the things I've been speculating for quite some time now for how he gets defeated. Swallowing a pill that was too big for him to even chew.

      Well, there are other ways he could suffer his final defeat:

      1. Either Ellen or Artmesia (or maybe both of them) rip the Demon King(s) from his body and kill him, only to take that power for themselves and become the final boss(es).

      2. Shido combines the powers of all Spirits he sealed, absorbs the Qlipha Crystal(s) from Westcott's body, and ultimately deals him a massive fatal blow.

      3. All Spirits band together and kill him themselves.

      4. Mana kills him for betraying her (telling her DEM had given her a home when all they did was kidnap her, manipulate her memories, and turn her into a pawn in their corrupt games).

      5. Nia steals back Beelzebub and uses it to kill Westcott, not only for stealing her Demon King, but for putting her through five years of torture.

      6. Kurumi goes back in time to kill Westcott before he even has a chance to summon the First Spirit (but this is the least likely possibility, because that could completely ruin the whole story).

      7. However he gets defeated (and his powers are rendered useless), Westcott is forced to turn himself over to the proper authorities. Charges against him: Over 100 million counts of murder, multiple counts each of kidnapping, conspiracy to commit genocide, attempted murder, and larceny, and one count of arson. With countless evidence stacked up against him, his conviction on all charges will be inevitable, and his sentence: Death by hanging. The only thing the prosecution will offer him: A free last meal.

      8. What about Ellen? If 7 comes true, she faces the same charges, but in exchange for her testimony against Westcott, rather than receive the same sentence as he, she receives over 100 million concurrent life sentences without possibility of parole and serves it in a maximum security prison in the United Kingdom. No visitors, no mail, no phone calls, no human contact whatsoever. If Westcott dies in any way and she is the only surviving member of DEM not turned against them, she will face the death penalty. (I doubt she will ever redeem herself)

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    • I found #7 to be so illustrative, it's ridiculously hilarious if it happens.

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    • With it being revealed that Artimisia was brainwashed in Volume 16 (and heavily hinted prior), I highly doubt she'll be the final boss with Ellen.

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    • 2.30.218.187 wrote:
      With it being revealed that Artimisia was brainwashed in Volume 16 (and heavily hinted prior), I highly doubt she'll be the final boss with Ellen.

      Well, if that's true, at least let Ellen be the final boss (if Westcott is arrested or killed prior).

      BTW, Vincetick, what's the matter with guys like Westcott being punished by the law?

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    • ^ There's nothing wrong with it.

      I just found #7's loads of reasons for him to be incarcerated in prison or be hanged just really ludicrous yet true. I would find it somewhat fitting, but also funny.

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